Curse

Div · Apr 12, 2007, 04:45 PM // 16:45

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Originally Posted by Program Ftw

WM's attempt ended in tears, I some how feel for them, but I got the impression they disliked the metagame, what I think killed it for them was the CT fall back timing? So I guess they just withdrew from the tournement.

Thanks,
Pr0gram~

WM's current comeback attempt isn't working out very well, as they constantly have to change builds to figure out what's going wrong in this abusive meta. I'm sure if they stick it out, they'd be a powerhouse again by the time AT comes around (if it ever does...)

Franco Power · Apr 12, 2007, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by linh

It is fun and original, yes. But I don't think it is as effective as some current popular bar.

A good monk doesn't need a good build to be effective, bad players do.

Phelann · Apr 12, 2007, 05:15 PM // 17:15

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

WM's current comeback attempt isn't working out very well, as they constantly have to change builds to figure out what's going wrong in this abusive meta. I'm sure if they stick it out, they'd be a powerhouse again by the time AT comes around (if it ever does...)

They need to realize that they have been gone and are no longer at the front of the metagame, suck it up, and stop trying to make their own crazy RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing builds. Time 2 copy.

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Originally Posted by Franco Power

A good monk doesn't need a good build to be effective, bad players do.

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooo what a deep statement!~

Completely wrong though.

STINGER · Apr 12, 2007, 05:53 PM // 17:53

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Originally Posted by Phelann

They need to realize that they have been gone and are no longer at the front of the metagame, suck it up, and stop trying to make their own crazy RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GOing builds. Time 2 copy.

Oooooooooooooooooooooooooo what a deep statement!~

Completely wrong though.

You have got to be joking! A little time off doesnt turn people stupid!

Thom Bangalter · Apr 12, 2007, 06:03 PM // 18:03

They don't play at euro times, so they don't know what those retards run, otherwise you'd see them run hexes. Possibly with some dervishes.

Phelann · Apr 12, 2007, 07:38 PM // 19:38

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Originally Posted by STINGER

You have got to be joking! A little time off doesnt turn people stupid!

a) what do you consider a "little time"? Do you remember the last time war machine/evil really played?
b) yes it does
c) look at soul weddings bar
d) i hate you.

d does not pertain to the current discussion, but I just fealt like throwing it out there

Neo-LD · Apr 12, 2007, 09:06 PM // 21:06

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Originally Posted by Phelann

look at soul weddings bar

Whats he using?

Lord Mendes · Apr 12, 2007, 09:32 PM // 21:32

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Originally Posted by Neo-LD

Whats he using?

Scribes Insight - Remedy Signet - Signet of Devotion - Mend Condition - RoF - CoP - Divine Boon.
That's all I can remember off the top of my head.

lordelg · Apr 12, 2007, 09:44 PM // 21:44

Scribes Insight - Remedy Signet - Signet of Devotion - Mend Condition - RoF - CoP - Divine Boon - Mend Condition

I think

Lord Mendes · Apr 12, 2007, 10:13 PM // 22:13

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Originally Posted by lordelg

Scribes Insight - Remedy Signet - Signet of Devotion - Mend Condition - RoF - CoP - Divine Boon - Mend Condition

I think

I lol'ed irl.
I think you should lrn2read.

Thomas.knbk · Apr 13, 2007, 06:21 AM // 06:21

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Originally Posted by lordelg

Scribes Insight - Remedy Signet - Signet of Devotion - Mend Condition - RoF - CoP - Divine Boon - Mend Condition

I think

TWICE?
I knew he was good

I think it was Spirit Bond

sir lockt · Apr 13, 2007, 11:50 AM // 11:50

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Originally Posted by Amadei

Basically, what Soul Wedding was just spam Remedy Signet and Signet of Devotion on himself and other people to compensate for the energy loss of Divine Boon. It was quite fun to watch, actually, and he was pretty hard to kill (but whether that was because of the build or because he's... not bad on monk :P... is up for debate). RoF/GoH/Mend Condi to heal people, and he'd hit CoP if he got in trouble in himself.

It was nice to see something unique on obs mode too. Made up for the weirdness of seeing Soul Wedding with a [WM] tag :P

Basically he does what everybody did in the boon prot age...

One nice example can be found here:
http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s....php?t=3030332

I didnt check which match it was, but If I recall it was a comment of TE guys. They clearly state their match goals was solely to take down Soul Wedding once.

Still its good to see them in action, like for every guild it counts; you need to be part of the meta to adept to it. I believe we will see koreans with the upcoming automated tournaments, and just like the top euro and us guilds they wont show you their new developed builds now on obs mode

STINGER · Apr 13, 2007, 01:30 PM // 13:30

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Originally Posted by Phelann

a) what do you consider a "little time"? Do you remember the last time war machine/evil really played?
b) yes it does
c) look at soul weddings bar
d) i hate you.

d does not pertain to the current discussion, but I just fealt like throwing it out there

The basics of the game have never changed and when people like these guys start playing hard YOU will copy them.

Meta is "nothing" but a definition of the current popularity of skills. It can change within no time when someone comes up with a new fresh solid idea. The true talented players dont build to the meta they build to beat it and do it regularly......its just the "also rans" that copy.

Soul Wedding bar for one game, one week, or whatever doesnt give any evaluation of how up to date a person is in knowledge of this game. I have seen some pretty freaky looking and unimpressive bars used by many great players simply trying to find "something else" they dont always work out but the key is they try instead of caving in like little nubs and copying people.

Nothing "bad" about that bar, its just "different" and looks like it could function pretty well. Sure it may not be "meta", may not even be viable in most builds but you have not got any idea what this monk bar might be part of. Nearly nobody plays the old booner, but you know what, it still freaking works, it just isnt as good as some other options as we have new skills that do what booners did easier! Just because something isnt used doesnt mean its not good, or cant be made good in the proper build.

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i hate you

LMFAO! As if I care!

linh · Apr 13, 2007, 03:00 PM // 15:00

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Originally Posted by Lord Mendes

Scribes Insight - Remedy Signet - Signet of Devotion - Mend Condition - RoF - CoP - Divine Boon.
That's all I can remember off the top of my head.

#8 is Gift. He has no Spirit Bond or PS. And he uses at least Major Divine Favor.

Zuranthium · Apr 17, 2007, 07:15 AM // 07:15

He should have taken Signet of Malice, not Remedy Signet. Since he's Korean he obviously should be able to click on an opponent who has at condition at any given second and maximize the skill.

~Z

Blackie Chan · Apr 17, 2007, 03:55 PM // 15:55

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WM's current comeback attempt isn't working out very well, as they constantly have to change builds to figure out what's going wrong in this abusive meta. I'm sure if they stick it out, they'd be a powerhouse again by the time AT comes around (if it ever does...)

I'm not really sure it has much to do with this, they are currently wiping a bit of rust off. We have played them a couple of times and feel they are just forgeting a few things such as putting shame on our mesmer and as far as I know they don't want to be in the top 100.

Thom Bangalter · Apr 17, 2007, 06:45 PM // 18:45

Danjang is in QQ btw.

Thomas.knbk · Apr 17, 2007, 08:09 PM // 20:09

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Originally Posted by Thom Bangalter

Danjang is in QQ btw.

I thought he was only off the army for like 4 days, holiday or something.
I saw him guest though.

Wasteland Squidget · Apr 17, 2007, 09:59 PM // 21:59

Danjang guested with QQ during the few days he was back from the army. He is not a member.

Clinically Proven · Apr 17, 2007, 11:14 PM // 23:14

WM are playing alot of games at the moment, but being very careful to stay out of observer. Builds have been varied from match-to-match, so they're definately testing and refining atm.